{"id":12377,"date":"2021-08-29T09:08:24","date_gmt":"2021-08-29T09:08:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/?page_id=12377"},"modified":"2023-06-29T13:07:44","modified_gmt":"2023-06-29T13:07:44","slug":"starry-night-for-a-ramble-a","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/starry-night-for-a-ramble-a\/","title":{"rendered":"Starry night for a ramble, A"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>AKA<\/strong><\/td><td>Kiss and never tell<br>The ploughboys song<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>First Published<\/td><td>1870<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>Writer\/composer<\/td><td>Samuel Bagnall<\/td><td><strong>Roud<\/strong><\/td><td>RN972<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>Music Hall Performers<\/strong><\/td><td>Sam Bagnall, Louise Austin, JW Rowley<\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong>Folk performances<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Collected from the singing of:<\/strong><br>Beverley, Mr;  England : Lincolnshire : 1905 <br>Stroud, Mrs. E.; England : Hampshire; 1905 <br>Fish, Lena Bourne USA : New Hampshire :  c1940<br>Byrnes, Tom; Australia : New South Wales : 1955<br>Tritton, Duke;  Australia : New South Wales : 1955c<br>Halsey, Bill England : Sussex :  1957 &#8211; 60<br>Leahy, John Canada : Ontario : 1961 <br>Jenkins, Mrs.;  Australia 1967 <br>Kydd, Jessie;  England : Lincolnshire : 1970 <br>Ford, Amy; England : Somerset : 1974 <br>Train, Bill; England : Devon : 1976 <br><strong>Modern performance<\/strong>s<br>The Beers Family<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<pre class=\"wp-block-preformatted\"><strong>From Hopwood and Crew sheet music (personal collection)<\/strong>\n\nI like a game of croquet or bowling on the green, \nI like a little boating to pull against the stream, \nBut of all the games that I love best to fill me with delight,\nI like to take a ramble upon a starry night.\n \n<em>A starry night for a ramble,\nIn a flowery dell\nThro' the bush and bramble, \nKiss and never tell.<\/em>..\n\nTalk about your bathing or strolling on the sands,\nOr some unseen verandah where gentle zephyr fans,\nOr rolling home in the morning, boys, and very nearly tight.\nCould never beat a ramble upon a starry night\n\nI like to take my sweetheart, \"Of course you would,\" said hhe \nAnd softly whisper in her ear, \"How dearly I love you.\"\nAnd when you picture to yourselves the scenes of such delight,\nYou'll want to take a ramble upon a starry night.\n\nSome will choose velocipede, and others take a drive,\nAnd some will set and mope at home, half dead dead and half alive,\nAnd some will choose a steam boat, and others even fight,\nI'll enjoy a ramble upon a starry night.\n<\/pre>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"724\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=724%2C1024\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-21756 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=724%2C1024 724w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=212%2C300 212w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=768%2C1086 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=1087%2C1536 1087w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=1449%2C2048 1449w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?resize=1200%2C1696 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/starry-night.jpg?w=1654 1654w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 85vw, 724px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/bagnell-sam\/\">Sam Bagnall<\/a> the one-time Shakespearean comic and prolific songwriter wrote, composed and presumably performed this song in the 1870s, though a variety of lesser known female performers also seem to have sung it at that time, including Louise Austin. It was performed in pantomime at Nottingham in the winter of 1870\/71. H Chance Newton recalls that \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/the-birds-upon-the-trees\/\">JW \u201cOver\u201d Rowley<\/a> regularly performed <em>A starry night<\/em> in the late 1880s and 1890s. Contemporary newspaper reports also suggest that a song called <em>A starry night<\/em> was one of Rowley&#8217;s most popular numbers and he was regularly expected to encore with the song. However, it&#8217;s unclear whether Rowley was singing this song, or another Bagnell song <a href=\"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/starry-night-and-a-beautiful-girl-a\/\"><em>A starry night and a beautiful girl<\/em>.<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" height=\"62\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-16.png?resize=350%2C62\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12455\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-16.png?w=350 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-16.png?resize=300%2C53 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 85vw, 350px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&nbsp;June 19, 1870; The Era&nbsp;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"389\" height=\"132\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-15.png?resize=389%2C132\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-15.png?w=389 389w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/image-15.png?resize=300%2C102 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 389px) 85vw, 389px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&nbsp;Dec. 21, 1870; The Daily Telegraph&nbsp;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are hints that the tune became just as popular as the song . It is regularly mentioned in late Victorian fiction, where you can find descriptions of it drifting from barrel organs in fictionalised London, young couples courting as the band played it on a romantic moonlit evening in New York, or played on the piano by ladies of the saloon in romanticised descriptions of the old American South.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The song was widely printed in cheap street literature on both sides of the Atlantic, on sheet music and in several music tutors. It was collected from the singing of a wide range of traditional singers, it seems to have been particularly popular in Australia. Early 20th century collectors like Percy Grainger and Cecil Sharp collected versions of it in England.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You can hear a substantially modernised version of the song as commercially recorded in 1905 by the Hayden Quartet at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.loc.gov\/item\/jukebox-119531\/?\">library of Congress website<\/a> and a version collected from the singing of Amy Ford by Bob and Jacqueline Patten on the <a href=\"https:\/\/sounds.bl.uk\/World-and-traditional-music\/Bob-and-Jacqueline-Patten-Collection\/025M-C1033X0025XX-0100V0\">British Library Sounds site.<\/a>  (Do check out what the folk process does to <em>the unseen verandas where gentle zephyrs fan<\/em> in the Amy Ford version).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Katie Howson describes how the song has become more widely known as a dance tune on her <a href=\"https:\/\/katiehowson.co.uk\/starry-night-for-a-ramble\">excellent website<\/a>. Here is an example of it being played as a contra dance tune by the Paint Creek Country Dance Orchestra:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"A3 - &quot;A Starry Night for a Ramble&quot; - 2020. Tom Allen prompts a contra dance.\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5L_YWNU6sSU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sources:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vwml.org\/search?q=rn972&amp;is=1\">Entries in the Roud Indexes at the Vaughn Williams Memorial Library: https:\/\/archives.vwml.org\/search\/all:single[folksong-broadside-books]\/0_50\/all\/score_desc\/extended-roudNo_tr%3A972<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Kilgarrif <em>Sing Us<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Lyrics and Sheet Music:Personal Collection<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>US Sheet Music <a href=\"https:\/\/levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu\/collection\/048\/116\">Levy Collection #1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu\/collection\/120\/084\">Levy Collection #2<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldcat.org\/title\/starry-night-for-a-ramble-song-chorus\/oclc\/726891370&amp;referer=brief_results\">Worldcat entry<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/katiehowson.co.uk\/starry-night-for-a-ramble\"><strong>Katie Howson&#8217;s site<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mudcat.org\/thread.cfm?threadid=28300\">Mudcat thread<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>H Chance Newton <em>Idols<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mentions in fiction:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Mary Elizabeth Braddon, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/sim_belgravia_1873-06_20\/page\/815\/mode\/1up?q=%22a+starry+night+for+a+ramble%22\">Belgravia Magazine<\/a><\/em> 1873<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>May Agnes Fleming <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/silenttrueorlitt00flem_0\/page\/178\/mode\/2up?q=%22a+starry+night+for+a+ramble%22\"><em>Silent and True<\/em> <\/a>1877<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Julian Ralph <em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/dixieorsouthern01ralpgoog\/page\/n38\/mode\/2up?q=%22a+starry+night+for+a+ramble%22\">Southern scenes and sketches<\/a><\/em> 1896<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><\/td><td><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n<div class=\"pdfprnt-buttons pdfprnt-buttons-page pdfprnt-bottom-right\"><a href=\"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/12377?print=print\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-print\" target=\"_blank\" ><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/folksongandmusichall.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/print.png?w=840\" alt=\"image_print\" title=\"Print Content\" \/><\/a><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>AKA Kiss and never tellThe ploughboys song First Published Writer\/composer Roud RN Music Hall Performers Folk performances Collected from the singing of:Beverley, Mr; England : Lincolnshire : 1905 Stroud, Mrs. E.; England : Hampshire; 1905 Fish, Lena Bourne USA : New Hampshire : c1940Byrnes, Tom; Australia : New South Wales : 1955Tritton, Duke; Australia : &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/folksongandmusichall.com\/index.php\/starry-night-for-a-ramble-a\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Starry night for a ramble, A&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"no","_lmt_disable":"no","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12377","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","category-folksongs-from-halls","category-songs"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - 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