Are we to part like this Bill?
AKA | Are we to part like this |
First Published | 1903 |
Writer/composer | Harry Castling & Charles Collins | Roud | RN17700 |
Music Hall Performers | Kate Carney |
Folk performances | Source Singers unidentified 1960-04-02 England Copper, Jim 1936 England : Sussex Costello, Cecilia 1967 England : Warwickshire Brazil, Danny 1978 England : Gloucestershire Messenger, Alice 1975-80 England : Suffolk Birch, Robert 1982 England : Yorkshire Smith, Wiggy 1995 England : Gloucestershire Modern performances |
Three weeks ago, no longer I was as gay as a bird on the wing But since me and Bill have been parted, you know Life is a blank and it's changed everything I saw him out with another last night None can guess how I felt at the sight With tears in my eyes that I tried to keep back I crept to his side and said, Are we to part like this Bill Are we to part this way? Who's it to be, 'er or me? Don't be afraid to say If everything's over between us Don't never pass me by 'Cos you and me still friends can be For the sake of the days gone by. We went to school together Lived side by side, me and Bill, in the mews When 'e was ill, too, I stayed up for nights Nursed him - to do it I'd never refuse 'E used to tell me his wife I should be I never thought that he'd turn against me Sleeping or waking, at work or at home I find myself murmuring this, Down in a little laundry Me and 'er work side by side every day She was my pal and I looked to 'er well Trusted and helped 'er in every way Still if my Bill cares more for 'er than me I wish 'em no harm no, but prosperity I try to forget him, but each day I find These words running through my mind.
A sentimental song from the turn-of-the-century halls, remembered by many traditional singers in the late 20th century. It was written and composed by Harry Castling and Charles Collins..
Kate Carney (1868-1950) was for many the Cockney Queen of the turn-of-the-century music halls. McQueen Pope seems to be projecting perhaps an idealised view of London in his description of her:
a wonderful woman who sang wonderful songs. She was the type that’s sold flowers around Eros in Piccadilly Circus, to whom everyone was a “duck” or a “dear” or a “love”, who attended Covent Garden Market in the early morning to buy their wares. Or sat by their husbands barrow selling good stuff honestly at cheap prices – hard-working, honest people
MacQueen Pope, The Melody Lingers p342
Carney expressed something similar, but perhaps with less of a romanticised view:
I have shown the English public types of the flower girls, the coster girls, the factory workers and the other toilers from the slums, not as she might be supposed to be, but as she is. I know the London working girl. I ought to, for I was one.
Kate Carney quoted in Baker, p175
Carney was second generation Music Hall , the daughter of performers . She started her career singing Irish songs, but gradually replaced them with the Cockney songs for which she is remembered. An extremely successful performer who was cautious with her money, after the First World War she could afford to pick and choose when she performed which she continued to do intermittently until 1949 .
Sources:
- Entries in the Roud Indexes at the Vaughn Williams Memorial Library: https://archives.vwml.org/search/all:single[folksong-broadside-books]/0_50/all/score_desc/extended-roudNo_tr%3A17700
- Kilgarrif Sing Us
- Lyrics: monologues.co.uk
- Baker The British Music Hall
- MacQueen Pope The Melody Lingers